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The Michel Fortin Blog: P.S.: Don’t Forget to Include This in Your Copy

  • Normal Joe · 1 year ago
    Thanks Mike! Actually most of this is stuff I've heard ( I'm diving head deep into learning copy) but one thing that stuck out to me is what you said about using multiple PS. Specifically if you use more than one, make it 3 and make the middle one the hardest hitter...great stuff man! Thanks
  • Richard McLaughin · 1 year ago
    Great to hear about the second of 3 PS's. I never could figure which the reader would pay the most attention too. Personally, I read the last (then again, I'm a bit off).
  • Michel Fortin · 1 year ago
    @Richard McLaughin - I don't think you're off. The last one, once you scroll right down, is indeed one everyone reads. But it's the 2nd one (the middle one) people remember and act upon the most.

    For example, we did tests where we included three tracking links -- one in each P.S. And the winner was the 2nd one. Whether they've read the 3rd or last one more, they seem to act on the 2nd one the most in split-tests.

    Funny, huh?
  • DK Fynn | Direct-Response Copy · 1 year ago
    Mike,

    As I read your post, I recalled watching you a DVD of Yanik Silver's copywriting course: you said that either 1 or 3 P.S.'s was preferred. I think that you quoted Dan Kennedy when saying this.

    I was anticipating mentioning about the 3 PS's in this comment, but saw that you already covered that. What I didn't know was what you said about the second, or middle PS: that people read that more then the other 2.

    Thinking of what adding a PS? Allow me to offer something you should consider...

    It requires a bit of html knowledge, but I think it's worth it, and I'm actually doing it right now in my self-promotion letter.

    Basically, you have a link in your PS...BUT...you link is not an order link. It doesn't take them to the order page.

    In fact, it doesn't take them to any other page.

    But it's still a valid link.

    You know where it takes them?

    If you're aware of html, here's a clue: It has to do with the name attribute.

    Don't worry, I'll explain it all.

    This link takes them to a specific section of your sales page.

    That is, whereas most links take you to the TOP of a web page, where you scroll down, an name attribute takes you to a specific section.

    The section you pick is up to you. It can be 2/3rds of the way down your page, it can be where you state your offer, or, in my case, it'll be where my response form is. (There's no order page on my letter that's a separate page from the salespage. The response form functions the same as an order form would, and is part of my self-promotional letter.)

    This is great because instead of having to state every nitty gritty detail about something significant in your P.S. (which would defeat the purpose of a P.S.), your P.S. can effectively say, "Want to see exactly what's included with this offer? Click here to be taken to the list of everything that's included."

    If you keep in mind that you have to write your salesletters for two types of readers--the skimmers and the word-for-word readers, this will really help direct the skimmers to your most important part of your salesletter.

    Something to think about.
  • DK Fynn | Direct-Response Copy · 1 year ago
    Oh...darnit!

    I said I'd explain it all to you, and I didn't tell you how to do it, so let me do that.

    It's quite simple.

    Let's say that the most important part of your salesletter is 2/3rd down the page. It doesn't matter where it is; what really matters is that you know what it is.

    Okay, so it's 2/3rds down the page, and in this case, it's the section where you display your certificate that qualifies you to be offering this product or service.

    What you do, in terms of html, is look in the html code, and find where your certificate starts. If it's an image, then locate the code, or line, for the image.

    Then, you place this line

    Text to be displayed

    above that line.

    So now, that line designates that your certificate is the specific part of that page you want people to see.

    The link you'd place in your PS would be in the format of


    Click here to see my certificate


    When they click on that link, they'll be taken right to your certificate (not the top of your letter).

    Hope this helps.
  • John Deck · 1 year ago
    Great piece Michel.

    It caused me to go back and rework the PS statements on my last copy. Added a #3, and strengthen #2.

    John
  • Michel Fortin · 1 year ago
    @DK Fynn | Direct-Response Copywriter - Precisely, DK. It was a trick I learned from Dan Kennedy's famous "clicks on the dial" from his copywriting seminar. I went back to my biz and tested, which proved what he was saying.

    It's not necessarily so all the time. We've had higher clickthroughs on the first and the 3rd P.S. But the 2nd one was the highest overall.
  • Colin Y.J. Chung · 1 year ago
    @DK Fynn | Direct-Response Copywriter - DK, that is one extremely nifty trick. Thanks for bringing it up!
  • Andrew Cavanagh · 1 year ago
    Great tips Michel.

    For many years I've used the last P.S. for extra testimonials that don't fit in the copy.

    In some cases I might have 20 or 30 testimonials at the end of the copy.

    The advantage of doing it this way is when your client gets a new testimonial you can just add it in without screwing up the flow of the copy.

    Kindest regards,
    Andrew Cavanagh
  • Jeremy Reeves · 1 year ago
    DK Fynn,

    That's a great tip. What you're essentially doing is an anchor tag right?

    I'm gonna have to try that on my next letter :)

    Also, one thing I'd like to add about the P.S. that I've learned is (in offline) not to put the price in there b/c often times people look at that after they read the headline. If they see the price, you haven't created the value yet and they'll think it's too much money and just click off w/o reading the offer.

    That's mostly for offline though - I don't think it's as big of a deal online.

    Jeremy Reeves
    www.controlbeatingcopy.com
  • Richard McLaughin · 1 year ago
    @Michel Fortin - Well it might be funny, but your testing is interesting. I am going to have to try and see if I actually do the same myself. This will be hard, since I now know the answer :-)

    I appreciate the answer.
  • Arun Agrawal - Ebizindia · 1 year ago
    You have explained the idea so succintly - kudos!

    P.S. We should restate the offer and the guarantee in a lucid language.

    P.P.S. Remind the blog readers to buy Michel's service or at least treat him to a good coffee.

    P.P.P.S. Remind the blog readers to subscribe to the feed so that they can be alerted to new posts.
  • Jeff Jones · 1 year ago
    Michel,

    These are some great tips for improving sales letters. I have been in internet marketing just over a year and I still wrestle with sales letters even though I keep a swipe file.

    I'll have to make sure to include the P.S. in my next sales letter.

    Thank you,

    Jeff
  • Stu McLaren · 1 year ago
    Michel,

    This was an excellent article. I wonder if the same priciples apply to P.S statements in email copy.

    Any thoughts on that?
  • Michel Fortin · 1 year ago
    @Stu McLaren - I imagine the same principles apply, yes. But be careful... people scroll down to the end of an email and what they get is not necessarily the P.S. It's the unsubscribe link. So I think you can use a P.S. in the copy using the principles above, but not to get the reader back into the email. This is a guess, but I'm pretty confident I'm right.
  • David Leonhardt · 1 year ago
    Michel, I like the little idea you threw in there. A lot of what you are saying is what we have been told by you in your eBooks and so many others about closing the sale and call to action and reminding of key points. But you also suggested the P.S. as a possible way to arouse curiosity for all those people who skip the sales letter.

    "I the letter above, I mentioned three critical steps without which the entire process is doomed..."

    I'll need to sleep on that one. :-)
  • Jeremy Day · 1 year ago
    Hi Michel,

    Great post and I agree wholeheartedly. I have used this for both personal and business writing and it works wonders. With all the emails and letters we get for advertising in the mail many of us have turned into "skimmers". The PS is truly a great tool because it really is a second headline opportunity.

    Jeremy
  • Asher · 1 year ago
    Hi Michael,

    Thanks for sharing this post, I've always known about the importance of P.S. but have not been told about how to use P.S. properly. Your post has helped me to understand and better use the postscript in my emails and copy.

    Asher
  • Etienne Denis · 1 year ago
    Yes it can be used in an e-mail copy. In fact, any sentence placed alone at the end of the body will get clicks. Make sure your unsubscribe link is in the footer, and make sure the footer won't look as if it's part of the body.
  • Brian Killian · 1 year ago
    Michael, have you tested this on the web?

    My feeling is that while the p.s. makes sense on paper, I don't know if the dynamics are the same on a scrolling web page.

    Personally, they do nothing for me, at least not on web based sales letters.

    But if you tell me they work just as well on the web, I'll take your word for it.
  • Michel Fortin · 1 year ago
    @Brian Killian - Read some of my comments in this comment thread, where I share some of my test results. The answer, in short, is "yes."
  • DK Fynn | Direct-Response Copy · 1 year ago
    @Jeremy Reeves - Yes, it's essentially an anchor tag with matching name attributes in the appropriate places.
  • Dr. House · 1 year ago
    Thanks for really useful article. I will try to use this methods in my next newsletter.